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Drum recording advice. Miking for two rock drums sets.

April 20th, 2010 | 31 Comments   « Previous  |  Episode 18  |  Next »

I am posting this episode from Italy at The Villa Prosdocimi where I am producing  a few rock projects. I thought it might be interesting for some of you to see the miking techniques I used to recording two different drummers . One sets his five piece kit up in a traditional way, and the other is set up very similar to Travis Barker from the band Blink-182.

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  1. Victor

    Very cool episode! Ronan, You have to be a tv star!

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  2. Modern Human

    Love your show, I always look forward to it. Thanks for making this.

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  3. Joe Horton

    Sounds like a lot of the Chili’s older stuff. Brilliant sounds!

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  4. Dan Terlep

    Very cool episode, thanks a lot!! I’m glad to see that you use some techniques not unlike what I’ve done on past projects – it’s great to have that kind of reassurance from a pro!!

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  5. Matt Crawford

    Great episode!!
    One question if I may..
    Why do you fold the tape on the drum heads? Is there any benefit to doing it this way over just laying the tape flat? Also what if your opinion on products like Moongel.

    Yeah.. thats actually three questions!

    Please keep the videos coming, they’re fantastic.

    Matt Crawford,
    Null Moon Studio,
    Scunthorpe, UK

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  6. Dan

    I just got my drum kit set up and ready to record. The first thing I did was use your techniques from the last drum recording issue. It worked really well! I was amazed really considering my modest recording setup.

    Your drumming tips are fantastic. You are lucky. I was in Venice for 4 days last year and it was wonderful. Italy is wonderful!

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  7. Janosch

    Quite Amazing!

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  8. NYMorningstar

    Another great show Ronan. You look like you are having fun, way to go!

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  9. Andrea

    Great episode!

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  10. George

    Awesome show. I’m jealous (mostly because of the food).

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  11. Ronan

    Why do you fold the tape on the drum heads? Is there any benefit to doing it this way over just laying the tape flat? Also what if your opinion on products like Moongel.


    Hi Matt. Great questions. The advantage of folding the tape is that you get a little extra weight in the same amount of space. The idea of the tape is to add weight to the head to quicken the decay.

    I love moongel. I usually use it on the top heads instead of tape, but I did not have any with me here in Italy. The only problem with moongel is that it is not always the best for bottom heads, because the vibration of the head can loosen it and it can fall off. Gravity takes care of that problem on the top head.

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  12. Steve

    Cool show as always.. ha ha ha they are always to infrequent for me. They are always fabulous – if not rather large in download size. But Hell I am not complaining.

    Hmm pair or cheap Akai Mics.. You trying to start a new fashion to take over from Ryan and the HomeRecordingShows Sony F98 fashion craze.

    Actually similar mikes and I guess probably similar features and reason for use.

    Anyway I am jealous of the location etc. Thanks and don’t eat too much of that great food or drink too much of the great wine.

    S.

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  13. Kern

    Ronan,
    Well worth the wait involved! Thanks so much for a look at your day to day!

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  14. Brandon

    How to do find proper positioning for the overheads. The distance each one is from snare, toms, cymbals etc. Spacing? This would be really cool to talk about.

    Love the show

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  15. Ronan

    How to do find proper positioning for the overheads. The distance each one is from snare, toms, cymbals etc. Spacing? This would be really cool to talk about.

    Thanks for watching the show. position of the overhead is all about listening and making adjustments. The right position changes with every drummer and every room.

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  16. Francisco

    awesome show, you’re very generous with your insight !

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  17. Max Bacchin

    Great job Ronan!
    The only bad thing was to drink the “punishment” amaro for my mistake.
    I suggest to everyone to use for bad musician,IT WORKS very well,believe me.

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  18. Baz

    Another great show, Ronan. I really love the vibe of that studio too. I hope to convince someone to record in a place like that one day :)

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  19. Brandon

    “Thanks for watching the show. position of the overhead is all about listening and making adjustments. The right position changes with every drummer and every room. ”

    Do you generally space each of the overheads the same distance from the snare? A lot of sessions I see the overhead mics are not, can you elaborate on this. I’ve always panned my snare up the center and try to have a centered on overheads (I’m maybe more concerned about this than where the overheads are in relation to the cymbals.) Should overheads be the same height from the floor/ceiling? Obviously this is recording and anything goes, but i was hoping for some general “Ronan” guidelines. Once again Ronan we all value your help and tips.

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  20. afoss

    What is that drink at the end?

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  21. Ronan

    What is that drink at the end?What is that drink at the end?

    In the studio we just call it “The punishment” but its real name is Elisir Novasalus from Trento Italy

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  22. John

    Hey Ronan! Absolutely fantastic. Here in the states I’ve come away with the whole enchilada with info like that. I’ve been treated. Be careful in Italy you may not come back. :-) Great video.

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  23. Nick

    Thank you very much for this, Ronan.
    I’m always looking forward to your episodes.

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  24. Ron

    Excellent show!!! The best one i’ve seen so far. Your really a great guy for sharing all this stuff with us little guys. I’ve used the kick drum technique before but not some of the other stuff. Keep the videos coming “THERE GREAT”.

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  25. couser crowley

    great stuff, ronan….did u purposely build your wardrobe to match the colors of the villa?? lol….i bet u weren’t expecting a question like this…peace…love…music….couser crowley

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  26. Perth salva

    It’s always a pleasure to watch your videos Ronan. I learn more from these 20 minute videos than several days of forum reading. Thank you very much!

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  27. Dave Molloy

    Hi Ronan, great resources from a pro. Thanks. Btw you must have Irish connections?

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  28. Shaun Combs

    Great advice Ronan! I just used some of your tips on a drum session last week. The tracks turned out great. Thanks so much. Looking forward to the next video!

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  29. PG

    Wow, great video. Liked the comments about drum tuning and working with the drummer, defiantely true, and often overlooked

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  30. Louis

    Hi Ronan

    Great video, extremly interesting.

    Two Questions :

    What is the use of this black blanket placed in waves up the drum (12:30 in the video) ? It seems removable on cables. Didn’t you want to get the complete brick room sound (with unparralel floor and roof) ?

    What do you prefer between absorbing floors (carpets) and reflective roofs or reflective floors and absorbing roofs for drum recording ? And why ?

    Thank you very much

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  31. Chad Marshall

    Hello Ronan,

    I’ve listened to your advice all along and use KSM32s plus Pacifica for OH’s (BTW, really super and like you said works with 90-95% of situations) I know someone asked about distance, etc and your answer was to listen but do you measure equal distance from the mic element to the center of the snare? I’ve tried all configs and finding the spaced pair seems to be best now in my new live room (e.g. Glyn Johns, Recorderman, xyyour vid really helped me place mine for a good start)

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