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A Simple Drum Room Mic Trick and Viewer Questions

October 11th, 2011 | 31 Comments   « Previous  |  Episode 35  |  Next »

So Sorry its been so long since the last episode. These last couple months have been some of the craziest ever.

This Episode I share a really simple drum room mic trick I stumbled on to (which can also be used for other instruments) and answer some viewer questions about inconsistent bass levels, finding the money to put together a studio and the need for matched pairs on drum overheads.

Don’t forget you can follow me on twitter @RonanCMurphy

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  1. Hector Cuevas

    Great advise as usual! honest answers to all os us just starting in this awesome bussiness… thank you! and keep the show going!

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  2. Bruno Fornazza

    Hey Ronan! great show! Please dont keep us waiting to long for the next one hehe! cheers!

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  3. Dawn Dineen

    I LOVE the advice about focusing funds on the ‘front-end’ and not going into too much debt. This has been my philosophy for carving out my own tiny little DIY studio and it’s so nice to hear such an accomplished pro giving this approach a thumbs-up. Ronan, I love your shows; they’ve inspired me to keep learning and staying open to new ways of working in the studio. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and approach!

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  4. Justice Constantine

    Ronan,

    Thank you again for these videos. I am a drummer and seeing that I can use a KSM 32 (thanks for the tip on the purchase) or SM57 as a room mic relieves me that I don’t need to keep purchasing more and more microphones.

    Justice Constantine

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  5. Iain

    dude, take your time with the episodes, there’s so much good stuff in em that it’s well worth the wait for a good episode.

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  6. Streamline

    Ronan, You’re a great teacher bud !!! You don’t just have the knowledge, you can convey it well to others, and thats pretty rare in my experience !!! Thanks for doing such a great show !!! Keep it up……Mike Jones

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  7. Anthony Rochester

    Great show. Cool room mic idea, good advice about debt (I learned that the hard way and still haven’t really recovered).

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  8. Terry

    In the long run I will probably get a pair of KSM 32s but buying better mikes makes you wonder about the rest of the recording chain, and unless you’re making money at it I think it’s a good idea to postpone big purchases until you can make a business out of it.

    Consider this group of authentic hillbillies — the fiddle player isn’t even wearing a proper shirt — these guys make great music with the whole lot of them standing behind an SM57 mike. (It’s enough to make the gear acquisitive or Gearslutz rethink their approach).

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x668-BgXDMM

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  9. Xavier G.

    Thanks, Ronan. Very informative as usual!

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  10. Vic Ciampini

    Hi Ronan, great episode and well worth the wait! I was very inspired by your advice on doing the best you can with the gear you have and emphasizing the front end. I recently purchased the M Audio Profire 2626 to interface with Pro Tools M Powered as I am told it has very good converters and the Octane Preamps are highly spoken of as well but I was wondering if you have any opinion on this interface. Anyway keep up the good work and maybe when the snow flies up here in Toronto I will manage to get down to a bootcamp. Your address sounds close to Venice Beach, I’ve been through that local once or twice as my girlfriends family is down in San Diego. Cheers.

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  11. Keith

    Great stuff as always!

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  12. Rob

    Another great show, Ronan! Rock on! Great to see you again =)

    Before and after would be awesome for future examples of the drum mic’ing at the beginning of the show (if such a thing is possible in a short video?)

    Always worth the wait =)

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  13. David

    Thanks for the tip on the bass resonance.

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  14. Ronan


    Before and after would be awesome for future examples of the drum mic’ing at the beginning of the show (if such a thing is possible in a short video?)

    I totally agree, but so often with these things, I am just working for clients and I take 30 seconds to document something that I think might be worth sharing with people later. I would feel a bit guilty spending the time to create examples on paid gigs.

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  15. Jule

    Very good, Ronan. Thank you!

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  16. Timo

    Good to hear from and see you again. Thanks for keeping the focus on recording on a budget.

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  17. drumslave

    Great show!!! thanks for anwsering viewers questions. i was thinking about getting a second AKG C214 for drum overheads, but didn’t know if they needed to be matched. speaking of the AKG C214, what are your thought’s on that mic? (if you have time). thanks again.

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  18. John

    Apology accepted! Wow! Its another home run my friend. I appreciate the info about KSM 32 and also the tip on the SM 58. I’ve always come away with something concrete here, Thank you Ronan. Hey don’t be a stranger. Do what you can, we understand you get bowed up with other things. Just to let you know we’re behind you. Take care.

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  19. Doug

    Thank you Ronan for the info but more importantly for the constant inspiration! These shows are always too short and marvelous. We wait and wait and sometimes wait some more, but are never disappointed. Keep on!!!

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  20. Music Production

    Your suggestions are really helpful and Thanks for a great video.

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  21. CSR

    Ronan,

    Don’t apologize for long delays between shows! You have one of, if not the best recording show online by far. I’d rather wait months for real information from you, than listen to a weekly show made by inexperienced podcasters spouting uneducated guesses. Your shows are packed with solid, helpful information… keep it up.

    CSR

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  22. Simon

    Hey Ronan! Glad to see you got another video up. I like the advice on buying gear. I wanna upgrade, but the more research I do and testimonies I hear (from sales reps especially) just makes me feel like I NEED all this gear to make an excellent recording. The best mic I had for the past 5 years was a 58 and I liked my recordings….until I started browsing the webstores and gearslutz. Your advice put me back in my earlier mindset. Thanks.

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  23. Music Production

    Thanks for the awesome video. I really liked it and it is very helpful.

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  24. John Hasty

    What a great idea on the drum room sound. Thanks alot.

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  25. Blake Duncan

    Hi Ronan, I happened across your site during an interview podcast with Joe Gilder of Home Studio Corner and was so impressed that I had to check this out… and as I continue to watch your videos, I’m becoming more and more impressed! Pertaining to this video I’m praising your answer to the question of which is the better recording software Sonar X1 or Pro Tools – your answer of the best is the one you own and the one where you show up and get the work done you need to do. I was recently frowned upon by another local “well known” engineer because I don’t use Pro Tools – at the time I was using Sony Acid Pro that did the job but I’ve since started using Sonar Producer and of the past couple of weeks delve into Presonus Studio One V2 – which is really awesome! Great answer to that question and I’ll be looking forward to watching more of your videos.

    Peace

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  26. Danny

    Recently, wanting to create a similarly warm OH sound, I had an RCA 44BX six feet in front of the kit with the null (top in this case) of the mic aimed at the cymbals. Of course you get a lot of kick this way, but roll some of that off and the cymbals’ reflections and the rest of the kit sound gushy as gushy gets.

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  27. Ronan

    Thanks for chiming in Danny

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  28. Paul

    No worries on the length of time between episodes – it’s often quite awhile between my viewings, so they always appear fresh to me!
    My question is more personal – I ride the rollercoaster between Futility and Elation when it comes to creative action. What is just selfish splooge vs. something that matters, and your input to this.
    Thanks for more than you may know!

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  29. Dean

    So, Hello by the way :-) Great advice, you are a star…
    I am about to start with:
    1 x Focusrite scarlett 18i20
    3 x Shure sm 57
    2 x Shure KR 32 (got name wrong) condensers
    2 x small diaphragm mics (not sure which yet)
    1 x i7 laptop with 8 gb memory
    1 x Pro Tools 10
    10 x high density sound curtains

    Is this enough to get started with mobile multitrack recording, is there anything else that you think I need…

    Thanks in advance
    Dean
    Sleeping Dogs ….. Email address is authentic

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  30. Dean

    Also, I forgot…

    A headphone preamp, maybe 6 channels?

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  31. analogfogey

    After a long hiatus, I’m getting back into the home studio game. I’ll be running 8-tracks onto tape– I know, that places me in low brow status, but I love the sound. I got the KSM 32, but now I see a dizzying array of preamps, from cheap ones to extremely expensive. Can you recommend a usable one that is reasonably priced? Also, in today’s digital world, are the products (i.e., preamps, compressors, etc.) commonly available on the market today mostly geared toward digital recording, and do I have to seek out equipment that was specifically designed for tape? Thanks a million. Love the videos.

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